“It happened very few wrong attacks, which were not the policy of the FLN, the FLN was fighting against the soldiers, not the civilians, if FLN wanted to kill the civilians, there would be thousands of death killed, but during 7 years or war, there were only hundreds of Europeans killed, but there were 1.5 Algerian people killed by France army.” According to whose statistics? I’ve already said that I consider that number nonsense. France was not committing mass genocide on the Algerians and such a number is bloated propaganda to make the average stupid Algeria feel proud and hateful towards the French.
Let’s have a look-see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algerian_War Here’s what it says:
The FLN estimated in 1962 that nearly eight years of revolution had cost 1.5 million dead from war-related causes. Some other Algerian sources later put the figure at approximately 1 million dead, while French officials estimated it at 350,000. French military authorities listed their losses at nearly 18,000 dead (6,000 from non-combat-related causes) and 65,000 wounded. European-descended civilian casualties exceeded 10,000 (including 3,000 dead) in 42,000 recorded terrorist incidents. According to French figures, security forces killed 141,000 rebel combatants, and more than 12,000 Algerians died in internal FLN purges during the war. An additional 5,000 died in the "café wars" in France between the FLN and rival Algerian groups. French sources also estimated that 70,000 Muslim civilians were killed, or abducted and presumed killed, by the FLN.
The same with your absurd claim that the Americans killed 1.5 million people in Iraq too. I feel like you’re more interested in propaganda that speak to emotions than the actual truth. You’ll believe what you want to believe, even if it’s proven wrong by the entire world.
“The Algerian revolution, was not a war, because the wars happen between two armies and countries, but the revolution is between the countries and population, and the Algerian revolution was between France army against the Algerian people, who was represented by FLN.”
The Fascists in Italy and Nazis in Germany called what they did a revolution as well. Same with Pol Pot in Cambodia. ‘Revolution’ is a fancy word for bloodshed and coup d’état.
“The Algerian revolution was from the Greatest revolution in the world, and was an example for a people who wanted the freedom, and was an example to other people who wanted the freedom from the occupiers, Algeria revolution gave the hope to many people were under the occupation the hope that they can be free from the occupation.”
You sound like you’re reading from some patriotic text manual. Me, I’m not buying it.
“Until now, many countries in the world are grateful to Algeria fore helping them to get their independence.”
Yes, we did the history of decolonialization at school. This is not the debate.
“Why you don’t believe that, we have the files of the death, and this number is near, and a lot of says that is more than 1.5 million. During the independence war, the number of Algerian went down.”
Populations go down for a variety or reasons during wars: refugees, emigration, poverty, small birth rate, and then finally casualities. Because the population went down doesn’t mean that all of them were killed.
“You deny the number of 1.5 million Algerian death, and you agree with the number of 6 millions Jews killed by Nazi, I think that you only try to return that to me.”
There is one hundred percent documented evidence by the Nazis themselves how many Jews they deported and killed, or just simply shot in Russia. It’s not just mad nationalistic claims after the war. I’m not denying that the Algerians suffered and that it was a bloody war involving crimes and torture by both sides. I’m simply saying that the number of 1.5 million is unrealistic.
“You deny for the Algerians, and admit it from the Jews !!!!!! what standard do you have ?? What the Algerian suffered from France occupation is worse than what the Jews had.”
Oh really? Give how many Algerians are still in Algeria, I think that you have no idea.
“The Half of the Algerians were kept and assemble is some crowed region, like the Nazis did for the Jews, but the half of Algerians lived in those camps during 7 years, more than the Jews in Germany.”
The French did not start gassing and shooting the Algerians to completely exterminate all of them. The comparison is off the wall and off the mark.
“Do you know that France in 8 august 1945 killed 45 thousands Algerians, and that according to France sources, not Algerian sources.”
I’m not aware of this. Explain it.
“Any way, France don’t confess that there were 1.5 million Algerian killed, and that logical, can a country confess that it killed hundreds thousands of people. Sure not.”
Just as a country where a guerrilla group wins, uses propaganda to strengthen patriotic feeling, even if it means bending the truth.
“I really feel sorry for you. Do you know from where I bring this number, it’s from a British human organization, and it’s not from us dear.”
Which? There are no credible independent sources that put the number that high.
“If the Algerians killed some hundreds civilians by wrong way, and that was not the policy of FLN, France killed 1.5 million Algerians, and there is no comparison between them.”
The FLN killed more than couple hundred of civilians. More like tens of thousands, Arab and colonist alike.
“The Palestinians were living in their lands before the coming of Israel during 2000 years, and they were the majority in all this period.”
There were no Palestinians or Arabs in that area 2000 years ago.
“The country that you’re talking about (Israel) was built after bringing 95% of them from outside, and the Palestinians were exist there, and they didn’t come from another land.”
Jews are Jews and are entitled to return from exile to their homeland. Had these 95 percent of Jews been living there like they would have been, they would be the majority anyway.
“The land that you call Israel was belong to Arabs, and the Zionists Jews occupied it and thrown their people, and like this became a country in your eyes.”
I don’t accept that, and you repeating it won’t make me either. The Arabs can claim what they want, it doesn’t make it theirs. Jews have lived there thousands of years before there was such a thing as an Arab or Muslim.
“When I say Arabs People, I don’t mean the original Arabs, because the most people that they call themselves arabs, are not originally Arabs, like middle East and North Africa.
If we consider all Arabs are originally from the desert of Saudi, we will say that there were no people living in this region before the coming of Islam, and that is wrong.
The people of this region converted to Arabic language after coming of Israel, and became called Arab people.”
Then you’re simply claiming unity when it suits you. These newly absorbed nations that call themselves Arab now, can’t claim that they were Arabs 2000 years ago.
“So, the people who call itself Arab are originality from this region, and lived there from thousands of years, before the world know something called Jewish.”
While these people may have been alive back then, they were not considering themselves Arab. Jewish identity, Jewish sovereignty, the Jewish religion, all of these existed back then.
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