“Because you couldn’t do anything and the world blame you for destroying Lebanon for no cause, and for killing thousand of civilians, the world got shocked from your crimes, and Israel didn’t have the choice to stop, and olmar is like other Israelis.” That’s some odd Arab perspective. The world saw very well the rockets falling on Israeli cities and how Hezbollah provoked the conflict the first place. The world simply doesn’t like wars going on, it doesn’t mean that they hate Israel or believe that it was the aggressor.
“The leaders of Isreal are all either criminals or bribers or violent or adulterers or thieves. Olmart is a briber, your old president is a adulterer, your Sharon is a criminal, and if I go in the past, is the same thing, groups of oblique and slanted leaders.”
LOL. Compared to the leaders that the Palestinians have, or the genocidal murderers that have run Iraq and Sudan, I’m not sure if anyone takes you seriously. Olmert was a corrupt lier. Sharon was a hero and visionary that unfortunately should have stayed prime minister longer.
“Actually Israel didn’t make the rockets stopped, Israel stopped the war when I got convinced that It couldn’t get anything, and Hamas continued firing rockets, but after some discussions between themselves, they decide to stop rockets, and Israel didn’t do that.”
The effect is the same. They wouldn’t have stopped had Israel not shown them force. Whether they say they did because they wanted to or not, is beside the point.
“Israel planed to take out Hamas from Gaza and give it back to Fateh, but it didn’t win.”
Israel planned no such thing. Hamas can invent objectives for Israel and then say it didn’t achieve them. This changes nothing.
“Maybe Hamas didn’t win, but it didn’t loose because it stayed there, and now it’s strong than before, and it have more weapons than it had before the war, like Hizbollah has more now, and the nest time you’ll receive and fight against a harder peple thn you did, like in Lebanon.”
I’ll use the same logic. Israel is still there so it won as well. Ta-da! We’re now nowhere.
“Tell me, what Israel won!!!!!!!”
You said it yourself. Hamas stopped its rocket fire.
“You were punishing Palestinians people not Hamas, because Hamas stayed and it’s stronger than before. Israel hit and killed the civilians, and the death of Hamas were small comparing with the civilians.”
According to Hamas. The reality is that they’re anything but ‘stronger than before’. The have no money, far less military capability, no international backing, no supplies, nothing. Hence why they’re happy with international efforts by some groups to ‘open Gaza’.
“It helped your soldiers by asking them to hide behind their materials, and don’t fight face to face against the Palestinians, because you’re afraid of having a lot of killed, like you had in Lebanon in 2006.”
Every time Israel attacks anywhere, when completely justified, people like you put all of their emphasis on civilian casualties. My answer is: There would be no dead civilians if Israel hadn’t been forced into a conflict in the first place. If people are so concerned with civilians dieing, they should then stop groups like Hamas and Hezbollah starting wars with Israel in the first place. It’s logical. You don’t kidnap and kill Israeli soldiers and then expect Israel not to reacts. It’s some weird Arab double standard which people like me, obviously think is garbage.
“You call it as you like, Israel is for us an occupation, and we will work to end it like we ended other occupations in our lands.”
Israel is a country, a member of the UN, recognized by most countries in the world. So you’re simply wrong.
“All the occupiers hade a full country, like France occupier in Algeria and UK in other countries, that doesn’t mean anything.”
France was not Algeria. France had a presence in Algeria. Israel equally is its own country, with a majority of its own citizens.
“Yes, It did that, they Jews inside Gaza left and they didn’t want that, they left because the Palestinians didn’t stop resisting, and that was very hard of the Israelis who used to live in Gaza.”
Oh really? Then I suppose you didn’t see the large struggle of the disengagement, where Israel has to literally force people out of their homes. The Jews of Gush Katif wanted very much to stay in their homes. I now think that they should have stayed.
“Israel left Gaza as it left south of Lebanon, because of the resisting, not because another thing.”
According to Hezbollah. Israel wasn’t planning on staying in the South of Lebanon forever.
“this was made my the Israelis, who want you me believe it.”
It’s your excuse for any reality you don’t wish to face. The entire world watched Israel evacuate from Gaza, it wasn’t some secret affair somewhere. I remember watching it live in television.
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